Patches wet with Barnes CR-10 pushed through the bore revealed a total absence of copper fouling. The .221 Fireball was created in 1959 as the initial chambering for Remington's new, unique, "space-age" XP-100 bolt-action pistol. I have attempted to chamber Remington ammo in two .17 Mach IV rifles. Neck sizing the cases stretched them to 1.344. Expecting to receive a half-dozen or so, I was quite surprised after opening the package to see more than 30 different cartridges ranging in size from the .17 Lilliput on a shortened .22 Hornet case to the .17 Swift on the full-length .220 Swift case. 7 1/2 primers and 4320 have been the go to combo for 17 Rem. Ben Voss FN Product Manager talks about the new FN SCAR 15P ultra-compact rifle-caliber pistol at SHOT Show 2023. Tips, techniques, and equipment are applied to these classroom discussions on how to become more proficient and successful at making long-range shots while hunting with AR-platform rifles. leaves the others choking on its dust. The shoulder diameter of the Hornady case is also a bit wider in diameter than the Ackley. The CCI A17 load has a catalog MV of 2650 fps and chronographed between 2775 and 2809 fps from our test rifles. I first became aware of his cartridge when reading a gun magazine article in the 1960s. Velocity from the 10.75-inch barrel of the XP-100 was just over 3,100 fps, with accuracy as good as that particular gun has ever produced. All RifleShooter subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. Especially Remington brass. Running the cases through a 17 Ackley Hornet full-length resizing die with its decap pin removed resized case necks and bumped the shoulder back just enough to allow entry into the chamber of the rifle but left the primer in place. Another Bee Ill hang onto for a while is a Marlin 1894. Blackout loads were extrapolated from .221 Fireball loads tested before, velocities indicating these loads came out about right, with velocities mirroring other powder choices. Also my 17 funnel and a box of the hsm 25 hp bergers. Give it a shot and see what youve been missing. He called it the .17 Pee Wee and built a dramatically scaled-down 1917 Enfield action specifically for it. Like some other spherical powders, Hodgdon CFE BLK performs best in cartridge case capacity/bullet weight combinations that allow 90 to 100 percent load density. Rem. After looking at load data for the 17 Mach IV and looking at Quickload, it seems something in the burn rate of IMR 4198, Vihta Vuori N110, Alliant 2400, Alliant Reloader 7, Hodgdon Lil'Gun, Alliant Blue Dot, and IMR 4227 would meet the requirement. Hodgdon Powder is the only current source of handloading data I could find for the new and old .17s. In 1950, Remington introduced the .222 loaded in a completely unique case based on no other. It pushes 25-grain bullets up to 3,200 fps. Cases did stretch some during firing and then sizing. Good brushes, a good one-piece rod, a bore guide and a solvent at least equal to Shooter's Choice are all smart investments. It is a very small bore, very high-pressure round and as such, it fouls just like a similar, larger cartridge (think .22/250 or .220 Swifteven the .204 Ruger). Full-length sizing is fine if you want cartridges to headspace off the .17s rim, but that amount of sizing set the case shoulders back .005 inch, which can cause cases to split around the web after firing them a few times. They will easily break 4,200 fps and terminal results are spectacular, as one would expect. The supplied scope rings that clamp on the square bridge of the receiver are a nice touch. Depending on the size of the cartridge case housing the tiny bullets, performance ranges from mostly suitable for rodents inside 200 yards to deadly on bigger predators out to 400 yards. With a price tag under $700, this Mauser is one of the most accurate deer rifles you'll find for the money. Subscriber Services. were shipped to Australian fox hunters than to dealers in the United States because it did not damage pelts as much as larger calibers. That put bullets 0.060 inch off the rifling, and while accuracy was not as good as with bullets touching the rifling, it was considerably better than with a longer jump. While the S.A.A.M.I.-recommended maximum overall cartridge length is 1.680 inches, my Marlin 1894 feeds 1.720-inch-long rounds without a hitch. models. Hornady also calls its new .17-caliber cartridge the .17 Hornet. Hornady dies were used to handload cartridges for the .17 Hornet. I have 200 pieces of brass and I'm ready to go, The Official Predator Masters Search Engine. Slightly compressed charges often deliver the lowest shot-to-shot variations in velocity, while dropping much below 90 percent can result in high velocity spreads. I'm watching this thread because I just got my 17 rem upper. My old friend who got me interested in the 17 used primarily 3031 for about 3800fps with the 25gr Rem or Hornady HP. Vihtavuori N133, Hodgdon Benchmark and Ramshot X-Terminator (same as Accurate A-2230) were tried, with the best group just .62 inch at 4,043 fps with 18 grains of N133, .77 inch at 4,098 fps with 19.5 grains of Benchmark and .70 inch at 3,780 fps with 19 grains of X-Terminator. It varied among the three bullets tried. Hornady currently loads its .17 Hornet with 20-grain V-MAX and 15.5-grain NTX bullets. Granted, the barrel had undoubtedly become fouled at this point in the test, with no means to remedy that. Tips, techniques, and equipment are applied to these classroom discussions on how to become more proficient and successful at making long-range shots while hunting with AR-platform rifles. : 2.150" Powder: 24.1 gr 25.9 gr Vel. It is my fathers favorite rat rifle and I was able to borrow it only because it was during the off-season. I recall wondering if close examination would have revealed several .375-inch holes the bears hide. Likewise, only a few models exist for Hornady's new .17 Hornet, and rare too are rifles currently chambered in the uncommon but long-lived .17 Remington. The bolt on one would not close, and though the bolt on the other rifle would close, the fit was so tight a steady diet of that ammo would eventually cause galling of the locking lugs. It requires a little more care than some of the run-of-the-mill cartridges, but it provides more unique results within its niche, too. Wt. Patrick. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. The trim die squeezes the neck down to .17 caliber, and its hardened surface allows squaring up the mouth of the case with a fine-tooth file. The barrels of the Ruger Model 77/17H and the Remington XP-100 had accumulated some, but it vanished after only three applications of solvent. As a comparison, the extreme velocity spread was 108 fps for 10 shots of Hornadys Superformance Varmint 20-grain load. Published Jul 22, 2022 2:40 PM EDT. Some seating-depth jockeying would likely reap rewards, and the stock could use some work, as a piece of paper will not slip between barrel and stock. At 300 yards they dropped 5.50 inches. It is a great powder for cartridges from the .17 Remington Fireball to the .22-250 Remington. The first 10 rounds were outstanding. Joe Kurtenbach, Executive Editor of Gun & Ammo, and John Myles from Smith & Wesson discuss features of the Equalizer 9mm micro-compact pistol and new-for-2023 M&P 5.7. Meet the all-new Taurus Judge Executive Grade, a revolver featuring a hand-polished satin finish, presentation-grade wood grips, a brass rod front sight and an exceptional hand-tuned trigger. Formed by necking down Remingtons .221 Fireball case and increasing shoulder angle to 30 degrees, OBrien claimed a velocity of 3,700 fps for a 25-grain bullet. Hodgdon CFE BLK, Shooters World Blackout and Alliant Reloder 10x were auditioned. A steadily mounting accumulation of data makes the following list possible. In 2007, Remington Arms introduced a new rifle cartridge based on their 221 Fireball necked down to 17 caliber. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. In those days, a velocity of 2,000 fps was considered "fast," so this was really big news. In todays guise, benefitting of more modern manufacturing methods, propellants, a better understanding of twist rates, and cleaning procedures and products, the .17 really shines within its niche. Moving up in powder capacity, the .17 Mach IV was introduced during the 1960s by Las Vegas gunsmith Vern OBrien, whose custom rifles were on the dainty Sako L46 action. RifleShooter Magazine editor Scott Rupp breaks down all the features of the Mossberg Patriot Predator rifle chambered in 6.5 PRC. Using 17.5 grains of Reloder 10x produced a .21-inch group at 3,787 fps. The .270 typically calls for charge weights ranging from 55 to 60 grains, so my target is +/- 0.2 grain. Because the .17 Hornady Hornet case is smaller than the .17 Ackley Hornet case, handloading data for the two cartridges should not be casually interchanged. Remington factory ammo measures 1.810 inches in length and due to a fairly long chamber throat in the test rifle, the bullet is required to free-travel 0.183 inch prior to engaging the rifling. Both of those loads will push a 65gr V-Max about 4,100 fps. I prefer the 25-grain V-Max in the .17 Remington because it slices through wind a bit better than the 20-grain version, and it delivers more energy to boot. The new Sako Finnlight II sports an innovative stock and Cerakote metal paired with the terrific 85 action. That meshes closely with Hornadys 200-yard zero figures: +1.1 inches at 100 yards and -6.40 inches at 300 yards. Vihtavuori N133, IMR-8308 XBR and Accurate LT-30 were paired with this bullet, but none particularly impressed. Muzzle velocity was 3,488 fps at a chamber pressure of 46,400 psi. I was reminded of him while loading IMR 4198 in the Ackley cartridge in order to compare its performance with CFE BLK. H-322 didnt impress, .82 inch at 4,344 fps its best showing (maximum/compressed load of 19.5 grains), while TAC managed only .66 inch at 3,935 (19.5 grains) with this bullet. |
Starting at 18.0 grains of CFE BLK, I worked up to 21.5 grains, a charge that fills the case about halfway up its neck. In some cases, the cartridge you want to shoot will dictate the type of rifle available. As I mentioned, running the case through a 17 Ackley Hornet full-length resizing die bumps back the shoulder, allowing it to fit into the Ackley chamber. Price: $280 to $350-ish Pat Mundy There are others, such as the excellent, mild-mannered .17 Mach 2, the accurate but short-lived .17 Remington Fireball and so on, but the cartridges detailed above are the main players on the current seventeen scene. With an Accu-Fit stock and left hand adjustable bolt, this rifle is a perfect choice for anyone! Ruger's multi-role small frame autoloading rifle - Sear - combines AR-10 power with AR-15 Portability. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. Although overall cartridge length is restricted to about 1.950 inches, there is still more than enough room to seat bullets close to the rifling should doing so be necessary or desired. According to my measurements, its gravimetric density is 0.980 gram per cubic centimeter, the same as for water. 71/2 and 24 gr of 4320 under a 25 gr bullet gives me 3900 from a 22 inch barrel and is 1/4 -1/2 inch accuracy. H414/W760 behind a 30gr. A chamber pressure of 40,600 CUP is well below the S.A.A.M.I. My speed obsession may also have worked against me, as the lightest loads in many cases resulted in the best groups (though these were still well above actual start loads). The 20-grain bullet of Hornady factory ammunition had to free-travel 0.102 inch prior to rifling engagement. I figured Hornady 20-grain V-MAX bullets would pretty much drop out of the air after they reached 200 yards, but the tiny bullets surprised me. You won't be disappointed if you can find all the components. If striking a bone on impact they will absolutely detonatenot only potentially ruining a valuable hide, but also creating a superficial wound that is not immediately lethal and will leave animals to suffersomething all hunters try to avoid. J. Scott Rupp takes a first look at the Springfield M1A Loaded rifle chambered in the popular 6.5 Creedmoor. Muzzle flash in a 10.75-inch barrel is minimal, while touching off a charge of LilGun is remindful of how the 221 Fireball got its name. Velocities from pressure barrels are usually higher than velocities from off-the-shelf rifles, but in this case it was quite close at 3,836 fps. This is a consummate varmint rifle, including a long, heavy barrel for maximum velocity and minimal warming between shots, with molded synthetic stock and forearm vents to promote barrel cooling. and the one you speak of is one of them. Through the years I have handloaded for several lever-action rifles chambered for the 218 Bee, and recoil is so light I never found it necessary to crimp the mouth of the case into the bullet, so lack of a cannelure on the Sierra bullets is not a factor. Ive been wrong before when predicting the cartridge-buying habits of small game hunters, but I hope Im not wrong about the .17 Hornady Hornet. This is in my opinion an exceptional load as it will not only make small groups but also makes a very good roe deer load and all that at a . The spring-loaded micrometer head allows for precise bullet seating depth. The other top-sellers are the .17 Mach IV, .17 Rem., .17 Fireball and Hornadys .17 Hornet. The 527s barrel is slender with a diameter of just over .5 inch at the muzzle. I dont know how Hodgdon fit 11.8. In a precision-built rifle with a good barrel, the .17 Rem. We will continue to update this list as new rifles are reviewed and additional data becomes available. Russ, thought I would hijack your thread to report that my 17 Rem. This concludes with an average overall group size for all types of ammunition. The .17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire (.17 HMR) cartridge is based on a .22 WMR case necked down to accept .17 caliber bullets. Ackley created his first .17 caliber wildcat by necking down the .30 Carbine case. True enthusiasts tend to advise infrequent cleaning of rimfire versions simply to avoid potentially damaging the rifling (and because the rimfire versions just don't leave much fouling) and extreme care in cleaning centerfire versions. Hornady Custom Grade full-length dies were used to size and load the .17s. The magazine of the Ruger rifle will handle longer. Factory .223 Remington loads often provide good accuracy, but the cartridge is a great choice for handloaders who want to duplicate or even exceed factory ammunition ballistics. The Judge has been promoted! There are a wide variety of custom makers that currently sell various configurations of hollowpoints and even softpoints in .17 calibera quick search on the net will show the way. .17 Remington (Using Hornady Bullets) reloading data with 77 loads. A few grains of bullet weight in this diminutive cartridge can make a very large difference in terminal effect, and the sleeker HPBT design flies exceedingly well. This is especially important when loading ammunition on a progressive press. Sizing bushings are interchangeable and available in .001-inch increments, allowing just-right neck tensioning to accommodate specific chambers (a micrometer is used to measure outside neck diameter of a loaded cartridge and .001-inch subtracted). LilGun delivered much lower extreme spreads of 45 to 69 fps. That partial, full-length sizing helps reduce the stretch of firing and the squeeze of sizing to extend case life. Dimensional differences between the two cases are so slight that load data for the two are interchangeable. Several five-shot groups fired at 100 yards measured less than 0.250 inch. can also be quite accurate. The first die necks a .22 Hornet case down to .20 caliber. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. The plastic tip increases ballistic coefficients for flatter long-range trajectories and initiates dismantling impacts on small varmints. I will say that the 20s, while attractive for the little stuff, are not always a great choice for predators at these velocities. To barely bump back the shoulders of cases and set headspace on the shoulders, I turned the size die up a partial turn from contacting the shellholder. Overall, Hodgdons CFE BLK, Alliants Reloder 10x, Vihtavuoris N133 and Ramshots X-Terminator emerged as clear winners, providing a balanced combination of accuracy and velocity in this fine varminting cartridge. My old pet load for my 17 BDL was with IMR 4320 with 25 Berger Match HP. Accurate 2460 shot 20- and 25-grain bullets a good 250 fps faster than other powders loaded in the .17 Fireball, and with great accuracy. The Remington Model 700 SPS Varmint test rifles included a heavy (.82 inch at muzzle) 26-inch barrel and held a Swarovski Optik 3.5-28x50 P scope set atop Precision Hardcore Gears Tru-Level Picatinny rail. Reibers load consisted of the Remington 6 primer, Hornady case, and Hornady 20-grain V-Max seated out to lightly engage the rifling. Believe me, this is important as this small-caliber case does generate significant pressure and piercing or blowing primers is a real possibility at excessive pressures. Smooth flow is also convenient to those who load on a single-stage press as it allows powder charges to be dispensed by a measure as opposed to the slower method of weighing each charge. Tested on 75 & 80 degree days with no pressure problems.. It's just a GREAT load for the 17 Remington.. CCI-450 Primers 26.0grs IMR 4007SCC Lot-to-lot powder variations do exist and in a cartridge this small, they can cause a significant difference in pressure and velocity. The Berger reloading manual shows the exact same maximum powder charge weights for both. A couple thousand of these discontinued bullets were acquired at a substantial savings after the Zombie craze subsided. Possibly more germane, I was unable to clean the barrel as often as I would have liked during testing, my pull-through bore snake was too short to fish through the 26-inch barrel. Wind resistance? Ackleys little cartridge, but loading CFE BLK is faster because it flows through a good powder measure with much greater uniformity in charge weight. A note on cleaningsince this will be mentioned in any reloading manual or article about the caliber. Hodgdons load data shows 11.0 grains of H-4198 gave the 20-grain V-MAX a velocity of 3,226 fps. On the faster burning end of the usable spectrum, and with lighter bullets powders like H322 can deliver astonishingly high velocity with excellent accuracy. Pushing 20-grain bullets to even modest velocities of 3,800 fps results in high impacts on small varmints such as ground squirrels and prairie dogs. Beth Shimanski of Savage introduces their all new straight-pull rifle. Formed by necking up the .223 Rem. And Aaron,thanks for your info too. Joe Kurtenbach and Caleb Giddings also look at the first-ever optics-ready carry revolvers with the new Taurus 605 and 856 T.O.R.O. Rem. It ends up with a shorter neck than a case formed from 22 Hornet brass, but prairie dogs dont seem to mind, and accuracy does not suffer. Rod Herrett stocked the gun, and Fred Smith fitted its 15-inch Shilen barrel. For the bigger animals such as predators, its very hard to beat a 25-grain hollow point. The .17 Hornets tiny bullets and a small case capacity mean velocities vary considerably with a slight change in powder weight. After that, the die is set for head-spacing on the shoulder of the case. The Sierra 40-grain BlitzKing delivered the smallest groups when seated out to lightly kiss the rifling, while the 50-grain BlitzKing preferred 0.005 inch of jump. The .17 RFB provides 300 to 400 feet per second (fps) velocity gains over the popular .17 Hornet. In testing the ability of the powder to Erase Copper Fouling, Reiber fired a 467-round string during the varmint shoot with no cleaning, except for occasional dry-brushing to sweep out powder fouling. When it comes to choosing a primer, it and the 17 Ackley Hornet can be finicky from rifle to rifle. Use a Rem 7 1/2 primer. CZ calls the 527 a micro-Mauser due to its nonrotating claw extractor that grabs the rim of a case as its pushed forward out of the magazine and blade ejector. I later bought an OBrien rifle in .17 Mach IV, and after shooting it for about 10 years, I sold it to a collector. It's a "hot" round, pushing a 48-grain bullet at 4,100 fps. It typically kills even big-bodied coyotes cleanly, yet does minimal damage to the skin. The .17 Remington has a longer neck with the shoulder pushed back somewhat, and is .036 inch longermaking it unique. The Sierra 40-grain hollowpoint also preferred 0.005 inch of rifling engagement. By that time most of his hearing was gone, and his daughter would answer the phone and relay the conversation back and forth between her father and the caller. The fouling was a bit heavier in the Marlin 1894, but it was easily removed. Respective starting charge weights for those two bullets are 15.8 and 15.3 grains. The .17 Remington is one of the children that the .222 Remington spawned. Robust, accurate and without expense-increasing frills, the XT-17 comes with a 22-inch barrel in your choice of stainless or blued, with walnut or synthetic stock. The .17 Remington is a fun and interesting round to work with. Perhaps you know someone who drives a Maserati, or a 1970s International pickup. Well Russ, you picked a bullet I've never tried. That is a significant difference in such a small cartridge case that only holds about 12 grains of powder. Springfield Armory Hellion 5.56 NATO Bullpup Rifle: Tested, SIG Sauer P322 .22 Rimfire Pistol: Full Review. It attained the second highest velocities with 20-grain bullets and the highest velocities with 25-grain bullets. You can use the Horn 25 HP My Rem LVSF likes the 25 VMAX with H4895 I have had as much as 3-6 grains variance in Rem brass. Medium-fast powders including Hodgdons Benchmark, H-4198, H-322 and CFE BLK, IMR-8280 XBR, Western Powders Ramshot X-Terminator and TAC, Accurates LT-30 and A-2200, Alliants Reloder 10x and 7, Shooters World Blackout and Vihtavuori N133 were chosen for a combination of clean-burning characteristics and maximum velocities. When using that primer in this cartridge, it is important to begin with a starting load and keep a close eye on fired primer condition while carefully working up. These are 5-shot groups fired at 100 yard targets. The Ruger test rifle used in this report preferred the Remington 6 primer. If the owner of that first rifle in 17 Ackley Hornet were still here, he would likely be tickled to see a load with his favorite powder slightly better the accuracy of CFE BLK. Bullets for the .17 Remington have come a long way since 1971, both in quality and variety. During one of those conversations, I requested samples of any sub-caliber wildcats Ackley might have on hand. MV with a 20 grain bullet is 3000 fps and MV with a 25 grain bullet is 2600 fps. Pressure indications were still quite mild in my rifle. J. Scott Rupp takes a first look at the Springfield M1A Loaded rifle chambered in the popular 6.5 Creedmoor. Camp Guns: Sometimes Perfect, Other Times Not But Often Essential! All are clean burning and temperature insensitive. So much for this rifle not caring for 25-grain bullets. I'm getting 3700fps (3/8" groups @ 100-yds) with the 700 Classic and 3670fps (1/4" groups @ 100-yds) with the 700 BDL. Two calibers stand out among those of .17-diameter ilk, although others of newer design may outstrip them in the future. The Remington Model Seven is ready, willing and able to handle just about any task. If the rifles are compared based on the average group size achieved with their favored brand of ammo the results are as follows. The .17 Hornet will become a very popular cartridge if it garners even a small percentage of the .17 rimfires popularity. During May 2016, he thinned the Idaho rockchuck and ground squirrel populations with a custom pistol in 17 Hornet built around a single-shot Sako A1 action. While perusing the CFE BLK data I received from Hodgdon, I felt a bit disappointed by the absence of my favorite ground squirrel atomizer in that cartridge: the Berger 30-grain hollowpoint. Most folks think that Gaston Glock introduced pistols with plastic . Reloder 7 did its best with a maximum load of 16.5 grains; .53 inch at 4,039. It is based on a necked-down .223 Remington case and uses a .172 caliber bullet, making it an ideal choice for those looking for small-caliber performance with minimal recoil. Unfortunately, our choices have become very sparse, but the V-MAX and the Berger HP both work better than the lighter bullets. The most consistent powder with this bullet proved to be A-2200, producing .52- and .46-inch groups at 4,145 and 4,226 fps with 18 and 18.5 grains of powder, respectively. I have, however, owned and handloaded for the common .17s and the focus of this article will be the first, and in many ways, the finestthe .17 Remington. I have tried 3 different 20 grain pills out of my 17 Rem. Muzzle velocity was 3,488 fps at a chamber pressure of 46,400 psi. The .17 Remington was originally introduced with 25 grain bullets, and for this middle weight, most of the powders that work well in a 22-250 or 308 work quite well. He did try some CFE 223 and was very happy with it. At 100 yards there is still a healthy 3,389fps velocity and 638ft/lb striking energy that is more than enough for humane despatches. What load are you using with 8208 with the 20 grain VMax? Bob Meinert, FN Marketing Director, introduces FN's first commercial pistol suppressor, the FN Rush 9Ti. When dropped from a powder measure, an 18.0-grain charge fills a Winchester case almost to the brim, so when applied to those two bullet weights only, the word maximum indicates that 18.0 grains is the maximum amount of CFE BLK the case will hold. After firing the factory loads, case lengths had stretched to 1.343 inches. Hornady loads its .17 Hornet Superformance Varmint cartridges with 20-grain V-MAX bullets and 15.5-grain NTX bullets, with a stated muzzle velocity of 3,650 fps for the V-MAX and 3,870 fps for the NTX. Except for the CCI A17 load, all brands claim a muzzle velocity (MV) of 2525-2550 fps and in our chronograph testing actually delivered average MVs of 2550-2650 fps, depending on the load. Anschutz Model 1717 D Classic, .17 HMR - 0.92", (TIE) CZ Model 452-2E American, .17 HMR - 1.06", Anschutz Model 1717 D KL, .17 HMR - 1.08", (TIE) Remington Model 547 Custom C Grade, .17 HMR - 1.13", (TIE) Remington Model 504-T LS HB, .17 HMR - 1.16", Thompson/Center Contender G2, .17 HMR - 1.21", Marlin Model 917VS ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.25", Winchester 1885 Low Wall Hunter, .17 WSM - 1.25", Savage Model 93R17 Classic, .17 HMR - 1.31", Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("A")*, .17 HMR - 1.44", Stevens Favorite Model 30R17, .17 HMR - 1.46", Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.54", Winchester 1885 Low Wall, .17 HMR - 2.05", Remington Model 547 Custom C Grade, .17 HMR - 0.69" (Remington), Anschutz Model 1717 D Classic, .17 HMR - 0.73" (CCI), Savage B.MAG Target, .17 WSM - 0.75" (Winchester), Thompson/Center Contender G2, .17 HMR - 0.80" (Remington), Remington Model 597 LS HB, .17 HMR - 0.84" (CCI), Browning T-Bolt Target/Varmint, .17 HMR - 0.88" (Winchester), Anschutz Model 1717 D KL, .17 HMR - 0.93" (Remington), Weatherby Mark XXII, .17 HMR - 0.94" (Hornady), CZ Model 452-2E American, .17 HMR - 0.96" (CCI), Remington Model 504-T LS HB, .17 HMR - 0.98" (Federal), (TIE) Marlin Model 917VS ("A")*, .17 HMR - 1.0" (Hornady), Anschutz Model 1502 D HB, .17 M2 - 1.06" (Hornady), Marlin Model 917VS ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.13" (Hornady), (TIE) Savage Model 93R17-BTVS, .17 HMR - 1.17" (CCI), (TIE) Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("A")*, .17 HMR - 1.25" (Hornady), Stevens Favorite Model 30R17, .17 HMR - 1.27" (Hornady & Remington - tie), (TIE)Henry Golden Boy, .17 HMR - 1.40" (Remington), Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.47" (CCI), Winchester 1885 Low Wall, .17 HMR - 1.5" (Remington). 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