There is very low port and muzzle pressure. 21.90, 21.94 That's the big problem with H110/296. Rem 7 1/2 300BO was and still is the only rifle cartridge I've ever reloaded. This is compared with H110 at 52,800 PSI and IMR 4227 at 48,700 PSI. Rem 7 1/2 primer When we are sold out, we are sold out. Back to the Hornady 208 Amax. I just bought a jug of H110 to start working on a load in that powder my rifle. Sierra shows a max load of H110 slightly higher than Barnes - 20.5 gr. Spent a little more time with CFE today, learning the quirks of the powder. It meters well, my Vintage RCBS powder measure was set up to throw 21.3 grains of 1680. And 300 AAC BLACKOUT with BERGER 115 to 230 grain .30 caliber bullets. I've tried Lil Gun for 300BOit seems to run hot. _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);
We use it for everything from the 110's to 160+ grain bullets in our 10.5" barrels. 813 fps By the end of 2016, you should find complete load data for CFE BLK on the Hodgdon Reloading Data Center at www.HodgdonReloading.com. Just received some info back from Callahan Mciver at Hodgdon Powder. I'm also hearing that people are having good results with CFE BLK but according to the burn rate chart CFE BLK is even slower thank A1680. If I had more length he said the difference between the two powders would be more noticeable. The H110 produced a sharp crack recoil in my leverguns while the Lil'Gun produces a longer, stronger recoil. of H-110 which is our standard loading and it gave 1,151 fps at 42,500 psi. CFE BLK contains our Copper Fouling Eraser ingredient, originally used in military propellant, which greatly deters copper fouling and contributes to longer periods of top accuracy with less barrel cleaning time. Lil' Gun along with H110/W296 (same powder) and AA1680 are all great powders for 300BLK. Privacy Policy. VEL. All the way to the max of 23.7. I almost quit after two rounds. You must log in or register to reply here. 150gr Speer Gold Dot (BLK variant) 2.255" Hodgdon CFEBLK 22.8gr 2025fps 25.2gr 2250fps 150gr Speer Gold Dot (BLK variant) 2.255" Accurate 1680 21.3gr 1925fps 23.7gr 2150fps 150gr Speer Boattail Soft Point 2.255" Hodgdon CFEBLK 23.2gr 2075fps 25.8gr 2300fps 150gr Speer Boattail Soft Point 2.255" Accurate 1680 21.7gr 2000fps 24.1gr 2225fps One new winner* is announced every week! Muzzle Velocity: 2,259 fps. 208 Amax, 11 grains at 2.260. Mar 13, 2019. I only load supers and use the 125 gr Nosler BT. The same case holds 26.3 grains of CFE BLk. H110 is a rock star for 300 BLK. (function() {
Bill K. I have not used H110 in my blackout, but I have had very good luck with CFE BLK. Edited May 29, 2018 by . I have loaded and shot the 44 Mag since the late 50's. I currently have a Smith 69, the 5 shot revolver on the "L" frame, and . I loaded it with CFE and weighed it. Hodgdon Trail Boss. CFE BLK gives higher velocities with the 208 grain and heavier bullets. The first test was 25.0 grs. CFE BLK did have exceptional accuracy though worth the 110 Vmax. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. GRS. Hodgdon says the starting load of cfe blk for that Hyd 110 vmax is 22.5C The 'C' after a load means 'compressed'. I started this load like I do many. I am happy to say that from a 24 barrel there was no flash when suppressed. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. I use H110 mostly for 410 shotshells and 450 Bushmaster heavy loads. CFE BLK Meters Well and Burns Clean AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Brass looks fine. 300 Blackout 220 GR SIE HPBT Hodgdon CFE BLK .308" 2.260" Starting Loads Maximum Loads CALIBER BULLET WEIGHT MANUFACTURER POWDER BULLET DIAMETER C.O.L. As someone said above, maybe the case capacity of this brass is lower causing it to be more full???? All in all for first impressions, I would say disappointment is the word best describing the experience. I dont really shoot subs so Im sticking with H110/W296 for now for my 125 TNT and 147-150gr FMJs. var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s);
The fun news is that with this setup I was able to have full function shooting Hornady 150 fmj #3037 bullets when suppressed. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. 21.88, 22.08 Really wish my chrono would not flake out at these higher rifle speeds. I wish I could go out back and chrono each bullet as I load them instead of having to drive far to get to a range. 11.2 gr. "Sometimes - those who dont socialize much arent actually anti-social They just have no tolerance for drama, stupidity, and fake people". The 300AAC B.O. Shooters World SBR-SOCOM. 11.2 grn Any experience with CFE BLK in magnum revolvers? by 41Bear Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:44 am, Post The Hodgdon loading guide for the 300 Blackout, 150 grn bullet, 16" barrel shows a max recommended load (20.5C grns) that only produces 33,500 PSI max pressure. It is somewhat encouraging tho. A bunch CFE Pistol and a bunch of Blue Dot. Its hard an the ears and eyes. Can you provide data for reloads using the CFE BLK. 300 Blackout Journey Page 7 Hammer Of Thor, 300 Blackout Journey Page 10-Competition Electronics Digital Link, Reloading 300 Blackout: Ruger American Ranch Rifle 300, I Am Coming Out: 308 Subsonic AR10 vs AR15 300 Blackout 200gr Hornady ELD-X, Comprehensive Corrosion Test: 46 Products Compared, Waltz, DRock, PacoAcuRzr resizing dies bulk 22LR testing, A tribute to William Mike Willard of Swamp Fox Ammunition, The Original 10mm Ammo Made By FFV NORMA AB ?S-670 40 AMOTFORS ? H110 made sense to me since I load .357 sometimes. It's interesting that Hodgdon shows 20g is max load, but Hornady shows 20.2g. I say try all of them and see which ones work best. I use the CFE BLK in my Remington 221 Fireball with the 40gr Varmegaddon, 20.5grs. Please accept my apologies for not reading your entire post.Im just some nobody online so dont get bothered by me. 1063 240 SMK For lightweight supers the density is too high and yeah you'll be compressing even at starting load. Should look something like this data: S Slowbolt Registered Joined Mar 26, 2022 8 Posts H110 and WW296 are the same powder, different containers. Ramshot Enforcer. Moderators:gds, bakerjw, renegade, bamachem, Post var _gaq = _gaq || [];
Im new to reloading and dont want to make a mistake. So, based on my tests, I now use Lil'Gun excluzively in my .357mag levergun loads. Like everything else work up your loads slowly and you will find the sweet spot where your gun groups the best. Like 300 Blackout ammunition, it had the ability to be loaded to subsonic or supersonic levels and it would fit in a standard AR15 action and magazine. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - You 300BO reloaderswhy H110? I am feeling a little better about the powder and will try to run a couple more loads this weekend. ALL Bulletin content is copyrighted, 2023 AccurateShooter.com. NOTE: Despite the BLK in the name, this is a NOT a black powder substitute. I haven't tried cfe blk or h110 yet, but lilgun and imr 4227 work good in my 14" AR. CFE BLK vs. H110 for 300 AAC Blackout for Short Barrel ARs - AR15.COM AR-15 AR Pistols Site Notices TNVC vSHOTT 2023 Livestream MAR 21-23 - Win a TNVC Custom Cobalt Kinetics CK-PRO Rifle! I was interested in seeing the flash suppression qualities. I seated the 150 fmjs at the cannelure. I will say that it has all the qualities inherent to 1680 that drove me to work hard to find a substitute. I have VERY little imr4227 but I do have cfe blk, lil gun and accurate 1680. . 21.98, 21.98 Not sure what weight you are using but I am using it in a 16" carbine length adjustable direct impinge gas system. Accuracy in the inches at 50 yards. Here is a target at fifty yards. 11.5 Grains 2.195 COL. If they are growing, you have too much compression. The left side group that is marked was the 8 barrel, unmarked 18. I put .025 compression on the powder. - Lowell George. I reload 357 and 44 mag so therefore I have a good supply of H-110. H110 came out much better than A1680 I assume due to the shorter barrel and faster burn rate of H110. ok? Not being argumentative, just curious. The CFE Pistol is made for 9X19, 40, 38 Super and such. A little more tuning on this load and it will be time to stretch it out. From my research, it seems to be best when nearly filling case, but not compressed, and I get nearly no unburned powder if I use CCI 450 Magnum primers. I got like 5lbs of it for around $10-12/lb and its worked great for 125-150gr supers. Hodgdon Lil'Gun. Loading up cheap and quiet subsonic 300 blackout using gallant bullets with CFE BLK powder in mixed head stamp converted brass. You could try seating a bullet with no powder and see how the bullet looks . BTW, 18.5 grs pushing 110 gr Hornady SP's are way more accurate out of my cheap PSA rifle than I would have ever figured staring out. How can this be? I use AA1680 or CFE BLk for subs. by alamo5000 Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:45 pm, Post In my 300 blk bolt action CZ 527 with 16" barrel, I had better chrono data and groups with 1680 and Lil gun than I did with CFE blackout for the 220 grain subsonic loads I typically shoot. I just need to figure out if a different seating stem would fit the bullets better. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. Clear Ballistics Gel Test, Kimber Camp Guard ? The 300 is very close to the 30 carbine so that is why it is used. That's impossible to get with a 10 grain load. Here's a simple task you can do that will give your seater die a more perfect fit to your match bullets. Ill find out! Look at thread number 8---- 38.0 grs. Barrel time. I use H110 for supers (110gr) and AA1680 for subs (180 and 208gr). New Starline 300 Blackout Cases. Starting with heavy supers where I have questioned their load data pressure claims before. The original CFE 223 propellant was formulated for reduced copper fouling (CFE in the name refers to Copper Fouling Eraser). When I talked to Hodgdon the guy thought the velocity spread would be on the smaller side because of the 7 barrel. H110 is optimized for .30 Carbine. A very popular cartridge, this 50AE based case contains a .308 style But give it a try and let us know how it works. A sub sonic load was louder than I am used to for a bolt action. yeah thats pretty bad its not just a mark, I have a nice area 419 funnel Im using and I tap them down when filling to get it to settle. By 150 grains they are neck and neck. In order to get a fair trial for powder burn, cleanliness and blow back. 1007 fps Hodgdon has announced a new faster variant of its popular CFE 223 powder. Hodgdon reports the CFE BLK meters well, allowing reloaders to throw very consistent charges every time: "This fine powder meters like a dream and leaves no copper residue, extending accuracy for longer shooting periods, and making clean-up quick and easy." CFE BLK Should Be on Dealers' Shelves in January 2017 Originally Posted by Varmint Shooter. This powder does not compress easily. I need to drop some speed, these were cracking at 25 degrees. (ft/s) PRESSURE 300 Blackout 220 GR SIE HPBT IMR IMR 4198 .308" 2.260" 300 Blackout 220 GR SIE HPBT Winchester 296 .308" 2.260" . 21.96, 22.00. of H-110 for the 500 gr.JSP don't think so. 21.98, 21.98 I use 20g and get just short of 2400 fps in a 16" barrel with no pressure signs at all. I have read a variety of ballistic charts and reloading data. Everything I read suggested that more compression is better with this powder from an accuracy standpoint. 774 fps 21.98, 21.98 I adjusted my die up in the press and its smoother but man its still marring the bullets with both seating stems. It's almost difficult to find a load our barrels do not like. I debated it but the guy at Hidgon thought Id be fine unless I was trying to push the velocity beyond what I really need in a 7 pistol. NRA Life Member, but the GOA is who I support. Improved Military Rifle IMR 4227. 8 barrel 1038 Considering the low velocity this is encouraging. It seems to throw high spreads until you get to 95% plus. (Thanks Trump for not pushing the hearing protection act through.) Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Classifieds 282 Gender:Male I can try a couple with less powder but I cant imagine .5 gr less would stop the bullet from marring. I would look into SBR Socom. I did not shoot without the suppressor. Last weeks load of 11 grains at 2.255 had an ES just over 200 fps. In this article [] March 27, 2020 Gavin Reloading Blog 300 BLK, 300 BLK Subsonic, 330 AAC Blackout, 45 ACP, 9mm parabellum, AR-10, AR-15, Berry's 220 grain 300 Blackout Spire Point, Berry's Manufacturing, Berry's . The added burn time, longer dwell really tames the noise and cuts down on the amount of powder blow back. For light supers, H110/W296 is a fair bit faster than any other powder in published data I've seen. The difference in velocity between a 10" and 16" is minimal due to the efficency of the 300BO. Compressed CFE BLK 110 gr. Is there an aftermarket seating stem for these V-Max? Hodgdon Lil'Gun. It's a very dense powder. I am also using 220 grain subsonic loads. driven every kind of rig that's ever been made, driven the backroads so I wouldn't get weighed. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. I've thought about trying the 20.2g max, but it's been really accurate, so not worth messing with. 300 AAC Blackout (7.62 x 35 mm) (300 BLK) 125 gr. I have compared it to IMR 4198, RL7, 1680, Norma 200, and Vit powders N110, N120, N130, N530 & N133. The first thing I noticed when I opened a one pound jug was that it looked like they shorted me a half pound of powder. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. I chose a load from the on line load data. After reading the threads posted I felt more comfortable compressing the load to the 2.050 COL. The 7.6239 is a bottleneck rimless case meant to be used at intermediate combat ranges (less than 500 yards). Fast Facts About 300 Blackout. New CFE BLK shares this reduced fouling technology which was developed originally for the U.S. military. It may not display this or other websites correctly. It is likely bolt speed and compressed powder moving the bullet forward due to moving faster on an empty mag. Another round today and almost there, ready for fine tuning. Contemplating reloading 300AAC however I have to ask is it really worth it? For supersonic or subsonic loads? Hodgdon CFE BLK. Hodgdon reports the CFE BLK meters well, allowing reloaders to throw very consistent charges every time: This fine powder meters like a dream and leaves no copper residue, extending accuracy for longer shooting periods, and making clean-up quick and easy.. The following is from a 10" test barrel using the 700 gr. Shooters World HEAVY PISTOL. Shooters World BLACKOUT. Some hunters speculated that it would sound the death knell for . I did not want the 18 to go super( ). You are using an out of date browser. If you're looking for a multi-purpose load for the .300 AAC Blackout, this may be the best bullet. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); 2023 Day At The Range. Hodgdon Tite Group. Zeroed it at 50. COSteve, I read your post, and I take it that none of the H110 comparison was with 300BO, correct? CFE BLK contains our Copper Fouling Eraser ingredient, originally used in military propellant, which greatly deters copper fouling and contributes to longer periods of top accuracy with less barrel cleaning time. Nonetheless if your ultimate goal is a higher velocity supersonic round I will concur that H110 or W269 is the preferred powder. I'm using a suppressor and 16 inch barrel and there is plenty of gas to cycle the action reliably and give me around 1050 fps. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. With it, I was getting my 158grn .357 Mag loads up to 1,789fps from my 20" Rossi carbine and 1,822fps from my 24" rifle as well as 1,960fps with my 110grn 30 Carbine loads in my M1 Carbines. 208 Hornady Amax Shooters World BUFFALO RIFLE. Vintage Boxes - Gear, Shell, Case, Primer, Group Buys Design, Active , Waiting and Archives, Closed Buys/Waiting for delivery/in shipment, If this is your first visit, be sure to
After thousands of rds of both calibers I can say it is a good powder for full power loads in magnum calibers. FYI I have since found the 125gr FMJ #30196 is FAR better for cheap supers in the caliber, and loaded over 20gr of CFE BLK it is decent, but CFE BLK is better suited as a subsonic powder (or with the 110gr v-max), H110/W296 is FAR better for most supers, 18gr under that 125gr bullet crimped to the cannelure is accurate and IIRC at least 100FPS Its a very dense powder. by alamo5000 Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:48 pm, Post MP300 will work and takes a little more powder than H110. 1023 average with 14.0 sd out of a 16" Ruger American. Buffalo Bore 155gr Tactical Low Recoil, Speeds, Feeds and Ballistics10MM Slugfest: Speer Gold Dot 200gr 10MM & Federal HST 200gr 10MM, 22LR Challenge/Callout: Lithgow 101 and Eley Semi-Auto Benchrest Precision Ammo, Dayattherange 22LR Leader Score Board Callout : CZ455 Varmint, CFEBLK Powder Testing First Thoughts: Guest Post, Kimber K6S DA/SA 3inch Table Top Review: The Journey Begins. (At least that would be my guess, if the data is accurate). Much of the effectiveness of that round relies upon its 3,000 feet per second . JavaScript is disabled. The carbine gas system was not so bad, cycled and locked back with no problem. Optimized for the .300 AAC Blackout cartridge, CFE BLK works great for .300 Blackout loads in AR-type rifles throughout the range of bullet weights. 1063 Sierra Jacketed SP BC: 0.338 2.100" OAL SD: 0.226 Sugg Max StartingVelocity Pressure Load Velocity Pressure Powder Grains FPS Grains H110 Lil Gun . The others were fine in the bolt, but AR reliability dropped significantly with subs with H110 and 4227. and eight-pound (8-lb.) 892 fps. Thats a big benefit for varmint shooters, who may put hundreds of rounds through a barrel in a single day on the varmint fields. WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. Hodgdon CFE BLK. Brass fresh from the tumbler (well maybe 6 mos ago). PwrPro 300-MP H110 296 H4227 IMR - 4227 AR - 2205 A - 5744 A - 1680 680 N - 120 H4198 IMR - 4198 200 AR - 2207 2000 A - 2200 LT-32 REL - 7 AR - BMk1 H - 322 A - 2015 AR - 2219 Benchmark IMR - 3031 A - 2230 X-Terminator REL-10x 201 AR - BMk2 3000 N - 130 A - 2460 Sp10 BLC (2) 748 N - 133 Unfortunately, the majority of all 7.6239 cases are made of steel and feature a Berdan Primer. Still at 50 yards, back to the original powder charge of 11.2 grains. Thats good news for shooters of small varmint cartridges. I use it for my magnum handgun loads so when I saw it gave good results in 300BO I started using it in that caliber too. With an impact velocity of . I never used CFE Blk and cannot comment on it, but I have heard great things about it. (Call for this load data) It is only fifty yards, I am quite sure at 100 I would measure it in feet. Heres some data from today out of my buddys AR 300 Blk 16 barrel. Known for its ability to deliver heavy subsonic bullets for standard AR magazines while cycling the action in suppressed applications, it also works well with lighter supersonic loads, offering a similar external ballistic performance to the 7.62x39mm Russian ( check out my 300 AAC Blackout Review from September 2012 ). Im guessing the tac-tx Ive got will do the same thing. Using federal AR match primer. This might end up being a very good powder for carbine gassed guns. A H110 18.8 2259 40600 20.0 2382 50600 C A H110 18.8 2220 39300 20.0 2348 50800 C I dropped the charge .3 grn because I wanted to test velocity in both an 8 pistol gas system and an 18 carbine. Any updates on CFE BLK loads in the .500? It provides full function in modern sporting rifles throughout a range of bullet weights and is perfect for subsonic loads. 208 Amax It's exactly this velocity drop that caused folks to start looking at alternatives to the 5.56mm NATO projectiles. There is a possibility that the chronograph readings are not accurate. CFE BLK Be safe. The table I shoot from is white, there was a fair amount debris on the table from the ejection port. I really think the answer seems to be 100-110% case fill to get reasonable spreads. If so, are you suggesting that there should be a direct correlation with how H110 will perform in 300BO and your example calibers/cartridges? This spreads out the seating force over a larger area of the bullet jacket. 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